Since Swtor forums are useless atm.. Downtime extended

And bioware continues to spit in the face of theyr european clientel ...

https://twitter.com/#!/swtor

Am I the only one that is horrified at what kind of downtimes we will have in the future, if they cant even manage to add such a miniscule patch in 6 hours ? :/

1 week after launch & 6 hour downtime required, which then runs over?

Not the best of signs.

But I'll wait to see if they make a habit of it. :)

You are correct Icarium, Its new to them, but they saw how much pepper they got from the Maitenance times they had previously to this one, so they decide to make them even worse (considerably so) to europeans? Its almost like they said to themselves, screw it.. we are having a long maitenance, basicly shooting ourselves in one foot, why not just put a bullet in the other one aswell for good measure?

My biggest grief is that they had a maitenance window that was Acceptable, and they went and made it completly unacceptable..

Even if It wasnt the holidays and people were at work, this patch would've been a annoyance to europeans.

And it definatly dosnt help that they still can't keep theyr forums alive.

It is what it is, why bring it to a forum to vent? Your trying to rally the masses for a mass exodus? Things of this sort are expected I can't even begin to tell you how many times Blizzard extended a maintenance window during its infancy. Actually screw infancy they have done that clear through Cata.

FYI don't ever get into League of Legends, you talk about over extending service windows they have that down to a science.

I never said anything about a Exodus or quitting because of this Trenshod, you brought that &*!@ up..

Also Swtor isnt competitng with what "wow" was, its competiting with "wow" is, Oh and keep in mind you brought wow up, I did not.

The amount of downtime is just the tip of the iceberg, what is my main cause of annoyance is that they had a good window for maintenance, and they choose to push it back so it further bites into the europeans day.

And Vordai is not incorrect in his reply It does help to vent, It is a frustration.

Oh and here's the Dev response to your whine:

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=808791#edit808791

Haha I will gladly admit i was overly excited when I posted the thread, It does not how ever change that they had a acceptable window already, which hit after midnight in the states, and VERY early morning in Europe.

Yes someone will always get the bad end of downtime schedule (unless they add a seperate crew for european servers).
How ever Europe as is, is as big of a market as the US, they could have started the patch at a time that was fine for europeans, I know this because they up until this patch did exactly that.

Starting such a long patch that late in the day for europeans was how ever just messy, and yes I will vent my frustrations about it.. I wish I could do so on the Swtor forums, but then again, theres another thing they can't seem to keep running.

The Launch has been smooth as silk? of course it has been smooth.. I am on a heavy server with frequent queues, how ever it is a still a ghost town.. it is not difficult to have a smooth launch when your servers goes into queue modus when theres more then 2000 players online at a time.

And yes nefloyd, thats exactly what I did 6 hour ago, I did something else, and got psyched to play again in 6 hours.. well here we are 7 and a half hours later, with no ETA.

Edit dev response to my "whine": That would be Valid if

1: This is the holidays, there is no "most" people are at work excuse.
2: Like I said before they had a window that worked well, and infact no mather how you twist and turn it, this patch would've stilled gone on for 1 hour after people were home from work, 2.5 if you count the current extension, and who knows how long it will go on.
Starting such a long patch that late in the day for europeans was how ever just messy, and yes I will vent my frustrations about it.. I wish I could do so on the Swtor forums, but then again, theres another thing they can't seem to keep running.

ps: editing in these forums is a painful afair :P

Today's timing is unfortunate due to bank hol, I see no real issue with maintenance during the working day (although 2am-6am or similar would be far better).

I just hope they do learn from it rather than insisting that they are right (and posts telling us it's how it *should* be really don't help).

Just because your last MMO had bad downtime doesn't mean all of them should.

Likely been part of that genre as long or longer then you ;) I how ever expect improvements as hardware/software gets better, not the other way around.

and I also expect a mmo company in 2011 to be able to find a schedule that works for "everyone", when they have so many mmo's before them to use as a refrence.

Munx I'm fully aware of what I typed and what I did and did not bring to this conversation. All I'm saying is maybe this rant of yours would have been best kept to yourself. The world isn't a perfect place and unfortunately the sun isn't/wasn't shining as brightly in Europe during this past maintenance window. Sorry to hear you missed out on some play time but it sounds as if Bioware will try their best to not have the problem reoccur.

Seriously though, there has to be something more constructive to do then come to a 3rd party forum and rant?

Everyone, as in every timezone on the planet? Good luck.

However, unless it's a hotfix or fixing exploits I'd be happy to get the patch at a different time to the US servers (e.g. 2am the following morning GMT). Don't know how viable it is though, whether they could keep some servers unpatched and patch others.

I guess it qould require a US / EU launcher for a start, atm 1 game client is used for all servers so the above wouldn't work.

You are correct, I would definatly prefer to rant on the official forums rather then a 3rd party forum, but like you said, its not a perfect world..

I've seen nothing that indicates that bioware will try their best not have the problem reoccur..

In all honesty though, my "rant" is mine, and wether it should be kept to myself or not is up to me, not you.

I see a problem with the maintenance windows, as such I will voice my opinions on just that, call it whine if you must.. justified in some cases perhaps, as opinions arnt always pretty...

Keeping quiet about my opinions would ultimately be far less constructive.

Edit: Jestunhi typed "everyone", theres "s are there for a reason, my meaning was that they are able to set it up in such a way that the times are acceptable for both US and EU.

Uh oh, trenshod wants to censor the internet.

Only positive threads allowed!

p.s. These forums are buggy :(

:edit:

I can refer you to various news websites with negative stories. maybe they should be told to keep their whining to themselves too.

Thank you for sharing this with everyone Munx, I'm sure this will way heavy on every ones minds as we try to get though another day of LIFE.

Happy playings

You are most welcome.

Oh almost forget, Ding lvl 8.

I have a solution. No more patches, updates or maintenance for this guy's country.

Boom you just bought an RPG full of bugs that no longer advances. You hit 50 and thats what you get.

If you like content and things to work as intended then I suggest you put down the Cheetos and go ride a bike during maintenance.

Well obviously they won't need to patch.

Bugs are "part of MMO's" so why bother patching them out?

Anyone who disagrees is obviously whining or QQing.

<RANT>My whine is the fact you damn yanks (yes you know who you are) don't know or understand the rest of the world. - A few casing points, time always given in CST (whatever that is and as if I actually care what it is! :P), The fact they announced launching SWTOR in the spring in Austrailia (in February which is the end of Summer) - do they not know that other points in the world have different seasons at different times. They launch a maintanance window on a public holiday in Europe and the likes, why did they not hold it back a day! --- Muppets (yup they are american as well lol!)
</RANT>

Oh and just for those that are bored - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqi0DwNLJdM Classic "Are you smarter than a 10yr old American version" -< says it all really !

<RANT>My whine is the fact you damn yanks (yes you know who you are) don't know or understand the rest of the world. - A few casing points, time always given in CST (whatever that is and as if I actually care what it is! :P), The fact they announced launching SWTOR in the spring in Austrailia (in February which is the end of Summer) - do they not know that other points in the world have different seasons at different times. They launch a maintanance window on a public holiday in Europe and the likes, why did they not hold it back a day! --- Muppets (yup they are american as well lol!)
</RANT>

Oh and just for those that are bored - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqi0DwNLJdM Classic "Are you smarter than a 10yr old American version" -< says it all really !

I expect maintenance in any mmo obviously, my point is they had a maintenance window that was acceptable for Europeans, and Americans, and they decided to change it in such a way that now It goes on for the better part of the day for europeans, even if we were currently working.

Hell, with these times ever americans are getting effected more then if they stuck with theyr old schedule.

@chino, whining is a part of mmo's to, so yeah go QQ some more about my whining ;)

@Bezzy, that youtube vid is not fair, there are people like that in any nation..

twitter.com/swtor

Use it. It says that on the launcher message announcing the maintenance. It says that on the "waiting room" page when their site has high traffic. It says that on their main page. There have been four updates about the extended downtime.

I agree these downtimes are lame and they should be fixed, but does it mean nothing to you that this game has been live, to everyone, for 1 week(kind of)? Does it occur to you that things happen? The people making this game happen are human, IT HAPPENS!

Everyone who wants to find something to complain about, thinks that whatever happened bad in the first week, will happen for the life of the game. Then says the game will die because of that. At the same time, i think those same people forget that this is Bioware's FIRST MMO! If you want to vent about something, do it somewhere else.

I haven't played WoW since just after cata, but i remember MANY MANY times before and after cata, that Blizzard had stupid long downtimes. This isnt WoW. If thats what you want to compare it to, then hold your bitching until the downtime runs into tomorrow, or maybe the next day. No one/thing/company is perfect.

Let me make myself clear. FIRST MMO BY BIOWARE. WEEK ONE. GET OVER IT!

That is all.

Seriously, now you are just being stupid. Decided to change it? It got extended. $%^& happens. They didn't "decide" "Oh, let's mess with Euros". FFS. You think they "want" maintenance extended? Problems arise during maintenance that sometimes cannot be seen nor estimated once they spring up. I'm sure they have a team of people right now trying to balance frantic work with careful consideration. I'm also sure that not a single one of those people care a whit to hear your indignant outrage over them trying to do their job to get the game back online.

A good laugh :D (it makes me sad that people like that blonde exist even here where I live :(

Now you are just reading what you want to hear nefloyd.

Patches started around 6 Gmt before today, today they started 12 gmt. 6 gmt was a good time to start since that ment servers going down midnight CST, which means both sides of the pond would have had theyr patch in a time period where there were few players.

They Changed it, they didnt just extend it from 6gmt, they changed it..

In this case the only one who came across as stupid was yourself, nefloyd.

Please point me to a single post saying that BW is horrible?

This is why trolls are so obvious, they can't even manage to read the thread before replying.

Why the very first post in this thread:

My point in making that comment was to point to the inherent hypocrisy of faulting Bioware for taking the time to make the game better while then going in and enjoying the better game.

ITT: Europeans that whine about yanks, while playing a game developed by yanks, inspired by a story written by a yank.

You shoulda stayed in the mountains.

Hyperspacerebel still awaiting the quote of someone calling the company horrible.

Disagreeing with their decision to shut down the website at the same time as the server is not calling a company horrible.

Disagreeing with the timing of the downtime is not calling the company horrible.

If you don't want to give feedback to BioWare then don't. If you don't want to discuss it here then don't.

But we do. And we will. Deal with it.

Spitting in someone's face falls under the category of being a horrible person. If you can't see

And Torhead is not affiliated with Bioware. You're doing Bioware no service by posting in this thread.